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Wednesday, November 6, 2024

Trump’s win lifts banks, small-cap shares on bets of business-friendly policy

Here is the article.

Donald Trump’s return as U.S. president for the second time on Wednesday boosted equity markets on bets of lower corporate tax, favorable tariffs and deregulation, lifting the shares of banks, locally focused small-cap companies and Trump Media.

His promise to make Tesla (

TSLA-Q +11.97%increase

The S&P 500 and the Dow were set to open at record levels, while futures tied to the small-cap Russell 2000 index surged 6%.

“The market believes a Trump presidency will unleash animal spirits and give a boost to growth in the short-term through some relief on corporate taxes and deregulation,” said Frédérique Carrier, head of investment strategy for RBC Wealth Management in the British Isles and Asia.

Trump Media & Technology Group (

DJT-Q +11.37%increase

The shares have nearly tripled in value from their all-time lows in late September, and his stake was last worth about $5.4 billion. The company’s nearly $9 billion stock market value is detached from its day-to-day business, analysts said.

Trump’s Republican Party also secured the Senate and was making gains in the House of Representatives, potentially making it easier for the president to legislate his proposals and push through key appointments.

Markets “have priced in a pretty strong mandate for the Republicans and are biasing toward most of the Trump trades,” said Scott Chronert, U.S. equity strategist at Citi.

“Policy details will be important for here as the market focus seems to be putting more emphasis on deregulation, tax cuts, and a more business-friendly backdrop.”

Wall Street lenders JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America and Goldman Sachs jumped between 7% and 9% on prospects that improved domestic investment and looser regulations would spur deals.Donald Trump’s return as U.S. president for the second time on Wednesday boosted equity markets on bets of lower corporate tax, favorable tariffs and deregulation, lifting the shares of banks, locally focused small-cap companies and Trump Media.

His promise to make Tesla (

TSLA-Q +11.97%increase
) CEO Elon Musk head of a government efficiency commission after the billionaire backed Trump throughout his electoral campaign led to a 12.6% surge in the shares of the electric automaker.

The S&P 500 and the Dow were set to open at record levels, while futures tied to the small-cap Russell 2000 index surged 6%.

“The market believes a Trump presidency will unleash animal spirits and give a boost to growth in the short-term through some relief on corporate taxes and deregulation,” said Frédérique Carrier, head of investment strategy for RBC Wealth Management in the British Isles and Asia.

Trump Media & Technology Group (

DJT-Q +11.37%increase
), in which Trump owns a majority stake, soared nearly 37% as investors overlooked the company’s latest quarterly results that showed the Truth social parent’s revenue was just $1 million.

The shares have nearly tripled in value from their all-time lows in late September, and his stake was last worth about $5.4 billion. The company’s nearly $9 billion stock market value is detached from its day-to-day business, analysts said.

Trump’s Republican Party also secured the Senate and was making gains in the House of Representatives, potentially making it easier for the president to legislate his proposals and push through key appointments.

Markets “have priced in a pretty strong mandate for the Republicans and are biasing toward most of the Trump trades,” said Scott Chronert, U.S. equity strategist at Citi.

“Policy details will be important for here as the market focus seems to be putting more emphasis on deregulation, tax cuts, and a more business-friendly backdrop.”

Wall Street lenders JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America and Goldman Sachs jumped between 7% and 9% on prospects that improved domestic investment and looser regulations would spur deals.

Victory for Trump, who has positioned himself as pro-cryptocurrency, lifted bitcoin to a record high. Crypto-linked stocks Coinbase, MicroStrategy, Riot Platforms, MARA Holdings jumped between 10% and 12%.

Private prison operators Geo Group and CoreCivic jumped 20% and 22%, respectively, as Trump’s promised crack down on illegal immigration could boost demand for detention centers.

Elsewhere, European defense stocks jumped against the backdrop of Trump’s earlier threat to withdraw from NATO, saying he would not defend allies that did not raise defense budgets.

“A Trump presidency would add further impetus to accelerate European defense spending, as evidenced by his first term in 2017-21,” Berenberg analysts said.

AUTOS, ENERGY AND CHINA

While Tesla shares surged on Musk-Trump proximity, stocks of other electric automakers dipped as Trump had said he would consider ending a $7,500 tax credit for EV purchases.

Rivian Automotive dropped 2.6% and Nikola slipped about 1.6%.

“Nobody is making money in EVs aside from Tesla, so the reduction or elimination of EV credits will widen Tesla’s competitive moat,” said Garrett Nelson, senior equity analyst at CFRA Research.

Shares of U.S. automakers Ford and General Motors were up 3.3% and 1.5%, respectively.

Oil majors Chevron and Exxon Mobil firmed about 2% each, while U.S. renewable energy companies such as NextEra Energy and First Solar plunged 6% and 14%, respectively.

Trump’s presidential campaign laid out an energy policy platform centered around maximizing U.S. fuel and power output, in part by dismantling the current administration’s centerpiece efforts to fight climate change.

Fears of escalation in Sino-U.S. tensions pressured U.S.-listed China shares with iShares MSCI China ETF dropping nearly 3%.

Import duties, including a 10% universal tariff on imports from all foreign countries and a 60% tariff on imports from China, are a key plank of Trump’s policies and likely to have the biggest global impact.



Thursday, July 20, 2023

Why Citibank Branches Are Closing Around The World

Here is the link.

Monday, June 19, 2023

SQL injection attack | 2011 Citigroup hack

 Throwback Hack: The Citigroup Hack of 2011

 

In 2011 (dubbed “The Year of the Hack”), the third-largest bank by assets at the time, Citigroup Inc, suffered a major attack by hackers. By sheer size and vast amount of wealth, Citigroup was an attractive target for hackers.

The Breach:

Sometimes the biggest hacks are the simplest, as was in the case of the Citigroup data breach. Using Citigroup’s customer website as a point of entry to get past traditional security defenses and to impersonate credit card holders, a group of sophisticated hackers broke into the bank’s vault of data and financial information—navigating for months before being detected.

The witty thieves involved in the Citibank hack leapfrogged between the bank accounts of various Citi customers by inserting different account numbers into the string of text found in the browser's address bar. The hackers wrote code that would repeat this process several hundreds of thousands of times which was the primary method of data collection. By hacking standards, this was a simple job to execute, but its genius lies in using an overlooked gateway - the website’s vulnerabilities to get in.

The Aftermath:

By the time Citibank realized it had been hacked, approximately 360K of the North American Citigroup's accounts were affected by the data breach. Customer names, account numbers, and contact information were accessed, but the company maintains that critical data to commit fraud was not compromised such as expiration dates and three-digit card security codes.

Approximately 217K customers were reissued cards and were given a notification letter, while the other remaining accounts were fortunately inactive. A notification was not issued until about nine days after the breach was discovered. It took about seven days after discovery to identify the affected accounts which were comprised of about 1% of the 21 million North American Citigroup customers. Ultimately, the total loss from the Citibank hack resulted in a $2.7 million loss for the company.

The Data Breach Market is Growing:

In 2011, many security pundits were scratching their heads wondering why so much hacking was happening. Experts answered that due to the increased amount of information being stored online, there is a correlation to the increased number of cyber-attacks.

Hackers are not interested in just stealing money, with critical information such as contact information and ID numbers, they can sell the raw materials on the black market, a market that has been valued in the billions. The black market started small but has been growing into a much more sophisticated marketplace saturated with brokers selling information on the internet bazaars. Criminals then use the stolen information to impersonate credit card owners and to buy merchandise.

In addition, many organizations are not taking cybersecurity very seriously, which leaves numerous vulnerabilities, and this is just too attractive for hackers to ignore.

Key Takeaways:

  • The biggest lesson from the Citigroup data breach is to have your website audited by professionals. If Citigroup had audited the site and repaired the vulnerabilities none of this would have happened.
  • A secondary lesson is that Citigroup should have publicized the breach on the day that it occurred. This would have reassured their customers that they are being transparent and taking the matter seriously.

Although this data breach occurred nearly four years ago, many of the techniques are still prevalent today. It's a shame, however, how many breaches have occurred since 2011 illustrating the lack of urgency around data theft prevention and security from corporations today. Due to the lack of urgency coupled and the precipitous rate of growth, we are seeing major growth in the "black market." It will be interesting to see what it will take for companies to put security and risk prevention at the top of their to-do-lists.

Monday, May 29, 2023

Annual subscription/ monthly subscription | My plans

 

Annual subscription/ monthly subscription | My plans

May 10, 2022

It is so important for me to get organized and review my subscription and services I got from USA/ Canada. I like to put together a check list so that I can manage better. 


  1. Exponent / monthly subscription, annual subscription $149 per year, renew March 23, 2023 | Paid by US citi credit card
  2. Leetcode / Annual subscription, $159.00, Nov. 11, 2022 | Paid by US citi credit card
  3. SeekingAlpha | Citi credit card | Membership Jan 22 - Dec 22, 2022, 12/14/2021 $179
  4. Google - youtube - free download | GOOGLE*YOUTUBEPREMIUM INTERNET NS | $13.43 | Scotia credit card Auto payment
  5. Microsoft - office software - monthly | MSFT *<E0800IF8XH> MSBILL.INFO ON | $12.32 | Scotia credit card Auto payment
  6. Rogers - monthly payment | ROGERS/FIDO BILL | Scotia credit card Auto payment - $30/ 1GB data
  7. Amazon kindle - unlimited edition - monthly (June 21, Scotia bank visa card $10.49)
  8. Zillow - rental listing - $29.99, Feb. 27, 2022 - one month rental listing charge | Citi credit card | ZILLOW *RENT LISTINGS 866-961-2570 WA
  9.  ENA*APPLIANCEWARRANTY 886-386-5286 NC | $125.03 - 05/01/2021
  10. BROWARDPLUMBING PARKLAND FL | $890 | Citi credit card | 08/09/2021
  11. Skype | Skype Number, 12 month subscription (+1 561 948 xxxx) | Total amount: CAD31.14 | Transaction date: Aug 18, 2021 | 
  12. iRun club membership - $40/ annual
  13. Auto insurance - ICBC - around $1500 Canadian dollars
  14. Auto maintenance - $1,000 Canadian dollars
July 8, 2022
I like to consider the following service: 
  1. Linkedin learning - annual subscription, monthly $24
  2. Udemy courses purchased - $240 dollars - system design - Need to finish those courses first
US citi credit card:


August 16, 2022
Vancouver open 2022 tennis 

Plan to purchase weekday pass, so that I can learn better about tennis


Sept. 6, 2022


Linkedin learning - Annual subscription, $342/ annual subscription, close to $30/ month.

Here is the blog starting my trial subscription. 

Sept. 8, 2022
AWS service 12 months free - Sept. 2021 - Sept. 2022, $28/ month plan - consider to make purchase and learn more about AWS

Oct. 7, 2022


Dec. 11, 2022
Leetcode, $159.00 dollars

Dec. 24, 2022
SeekingAlpha.com, $239.00 

Jan 27, 2023
Cancel tryexponent annual subscription 

Feb. 23, 2023
Sirius streaming service - First three month free - August 2023 - $24.00/ month including GST, PST 12% tax 

Car + Sirius app 

Feb. 24, 2023
Amazon unlimited kindle membership - Cancelled on Feb. 24, 2023 

March 29, 2023
Amazon prime membership $99 annual fee

May 29, 2023
MorningStar subscription - Annual fee $240 US dollars 

Sunday, June 5, 2022

Recession Outlook May 2022: Is it too late to avoid an economic decline?

June 5, 2022

Here is the link.

Yahoo Finance segments from May 2022 that examine the Fed, inflation, the economy and the outlook for a recession. North Island Chairman Glenn Hutchins sits down with Yahoo Finance at the 2022 World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos to discuss recession risks amid inflation and the Fed's tightening cycle, humanitarian aid for Ukraine, crypto market volatility, and the Boston Celtics. KPMG U.S. CEO Paul Knopp joins Yahoo Finance Live’s Brian Sozzi at the 2022 World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos, Switzerland, to discuss the possibility of a recession, rising prices, inflation, the labor market, and the outlook for the global economy. Cisco CEO joins Yahoo Finace Live’s Brian Sozzi at the 2022 World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos, Switzerland, to discuss inflation, supply chain constraints, recessionary risks, digital innovations, and the outlook for growth. Kathy Jones, chief fixed income strategist at Charles Schwab, breaks down the Fed minutes, the odds of a recession, inflation, and more. Yahoo Finance Live’s Brian Cheung discusses looming recessionary risks. Yahoo Finance Live's Brian Sozzi breaks down the stat of the day. Ryan Detrick, chief market strategist at LPL Financial, offers his take on why there won't be a recession later this year and what other optimism that consumer sentiment suggests. Yahoo Finance Live anchors discuss Goldman Sachs Senior Chairman Lloyd Blankfein’s U.S. recession warning. Carnival Corporation CEO Arnold Donald joins Yahoo Finance Live to discuss the cruise recovery, the demand for travel, and ticket pricing amid inflation. Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis President James Bullard sits down with Yahoo Finance Live to address efforts to contain inflation, Fed interest rate hikes, the outlook of future monetary policy, recession worries, and stablecoins. Rocket Companies CEO Jay Farner joins Yahoo Finance Live to discuss how the Fed rate hikes will impact the housing market and why he thinks there's an imminent recession. Atlanta Fed President Raphael Bostic joins Yahoo Finance Live Anchor Brian Cheung at the 2022 Financial Markets Conference to discuss recession, inflation and a ‘softer landing.’ Citi U.S. Wealth Management Head of Investment Strategy Shawn Snyder joins Yahoo Finance Live to discuss the U.S. economy, inflation, volatility, Fed policy, and the outlook for a recession. Wells Fargo Senior Economist Sarah House and R.J. Gallo, Federated Hermes Senior Portfolio Manager, join Yahoo Finance Live to discuss the Fed's recession concerns, balance sheet shrinking, and economic recovery narratives seen in the bond market. Don't Miss: Valley of Hype: The Culture That Built Elizabeth Holmes WATCH HERE: https://youtu.be/Sb179GLPNYE


Saturday, April 30, 2022

Annual subscription/ monthly subscription | My plans

May 10, 2022

It is so important for me to get organized and review my subscription and services I got from USA/ Canada. I like to put together a check list so that I can manage better. 


  1. Exponent / monthly subscription, annual subscription $149 per year, renew March 23, 2023 | Paid by US citi credit card
  2. Leetcode / Annual subscription, $159.00, Nov. 11, 2022 | Paid by US citi credit card
  3. SeekingAlpha | Citi credit card | Membership Jan 22 - Dec 22, 2022, 12/14/2021 $179
  4. Google - youtube - free download | GOOGLE*YOUTUBEPREMIUM INTERNET NS | $13.43 | Scotia credit card Auto payment
  5. Microsoft - office software - monthly | MSFT *<E0800IF8XH> MSBILL.INFO ON | $12.32 | Scotia credit card Auto payment
  6. Rogers - monthly payment | ROGERS/FIDO BILL | Scotia credit card Auto payment - $30/ 1GB data
  7. Amazon kindle - unlimited edition - monthly (June 21, Scotia bank visa card $10.49)
  8. Zillow - rental listing - $29.99, Feb. 27, 2022 - one month rental listing charge | Citi credit card | ZILLOW *RENT LISTINGS 866-961-2570 WA
  9.  ENA*APPLIANCEWARRANTY 886-386-5286 NC | $125.03 - 05/01/2021
  10. BROWARDPLUMBING PARKLAND FL | $890 | Citi credit card | 08/09/2021
  11. Skype | Skype Number, 12 month subscription (+1 561 948 xxxx) | Total amount: CAD31.14 | Transaction date: Aug 18, 2021 | 
  12. iRun club membership - $40/ annual
  13. Auto insurance - ICBC - around $1500 Canadian dollars
  14. Auto maintenance - $1,000 Canadian dollars
July 8, 2022
I like to consider the following service: 
  1. Linkedin learning - annual subscription, monthly $24
  2. Udemy courses purchased - $240 dollars - system design - Need to finish those courses first
US citi credit card:


August 16, 2022
Vancouver open 2022 tennis 

Plan to purchase weekday pass, so that I can learn better about tennis


Sept. 6, 2022


Linkedin learning - Annual subscription, $342/ annual subscription, close to $30/ month.

Here is the blog starting my trial subscription. 

Sept. 8, 2022
AWS service 12 months free - Sept. 2021 - Sept. 2022, $28/ month plan - consider to make purchase and learn more about AWS

Oct. 7, 2022


Dec. 11, 2022
Leetcode, $159.00 dollars

Dec. 24, 2022
SeekingAlpha.com, $239.00 

Jan 27, 2023
Cancel tryexponent annual subscription 

Feb. 23, 2023
Sirius streaming service - First three month free - August 2023 - $24.00/ month including GST, PST 12% tax 

Car + Sirius app 

Feb. 24, 2023
Amazon unlimited kindle membership - Cancelled on Feb. 24, 2023 

March 29, 2023
Amazon prime membership $99 annual fee, plus prime videos 

May 29, 2023
MorningStar subscription - Annual fee $240 US dollars 

June 16, 2023
Google one annual subscription - paid $3/ month 

July 2023
Tipranks.com, annual fee $360 US dollars

Sept. 2023
$50/ annual, $6/ month for subscription - start to subscribe 

July 2023
IBD digital $49 US dollars/ month, Barron, market watch 

Oct. 2023
Netflix $20/ month subscription starting from Oct. 5, 2023

Oct. 6, 2023
Grouse mountain - snow school 
Winter break - four days 
$356 

Oct. 10, 2023
Linkedin learning - renew - $380/ year, $30/ month 

Nov. 12, 2023
Investing.com pro $12/ month, discount $90/ annual
Renew data: Nov. 13, 2024 

Nov. 14, 2023
Renew Leetcode premium $159 US dollars. 

Nov. 23, 2023
CNBC investing club - Jim Cramer - $249   Nov. 24, 2023 - Nov. 24, 2024 
$249.00 US dollars

Dec. 14, 2023
SeekingAlpha.com - renew $239 

Tuesday, August 24, 2021

David Bailin: Retail investors will be left holding the bag when the fast money leaves: Citi private bank's Bailin

 

David Bailin

Global Head of Managed Investments, Citi Private Bank

David Bailin is Managing Director and Global Head of Managed Investments at Citi Private Bank. He is responsible for the development and oversight of the firm’s $53 billion alternative and traditional managed investments platform, including Citi Investment Management, Citi’s core discretionary investment management business. David joined Citi Private Bank in 2009 from Bank of America Global Wealth and Investment Management where he was President of Alternative Investment Solutions. Prior to this, he co-founded Martello Investment Management, a hedge fund of funds specializing in trading strategies and held executive positions at two leading hedge fund managers. David holds a BA with honors from Amherst College and an MBA with honors from Harvard Business School.

Saturday, September 19, 2020

MRO stock: Yahoo -> Finance -> Conversation

Sept. 19, 2020

I like to figure out the calculation in the following:


Unreal MRO is not $7 bucks now. When you look at MRO`s break even of $35 a barrel and then look at WTI prices from July to Sept with 12 days left in this quarters you see we have averaged about $41 a barrel. So if we are producing 190,000 barrels a day(bopd) x $6 of free cash flow that is $1.14 million everyday. That is $103.74 million this quarter of free cash flow. That means to pay bills MRO makes $605.15 million plus free cash flow of $103.74 = Revenue of $708.89 million. Now here is the interesting thing. MRO has cut capital expenditure budget to $1.2 billion for 2020. If MRO has cut cost across all basins that $35 breakeven could be lower. Let`s say they got it down to $30 per barrel. That is $190.19 million free cash flow.


Yes maybe that is to low but look what happens at $35 if WTI hits $50 . Free cash flow is $259.35 million per quarter. Citi had oil next year at $60 by year end. Let`s say $55 WTI. Free cash flow is $345.8 million per quarter give or take.

Bottom line with that much free cash coming in no way MRO stock sits at $4.68. Your looking at the low end of $12 per share next year to high end of $22 per share.

Now MRO has a tender offer of $500 million of it`s bonds 2.8 percent. Expires Oct 14 2020. It will cost them $525 million. I don`t know what to think about that. Are they selling a asset? Did they win the lotto? Did they get a lower interest government loan? Why clean up the balance sheet ?

One thing for sure, now is the time to buy MRO before the big run up. If not many of you can say BK all you want . We that bought will wave at you as we pull up to the bank in a armored car because this stock is going to make us rich.

Thursday, September 10, 2020

Do not worry for today big loss - I used to waste $40,000 dollars on less than three year on Citi bank credit card expenses

 Sept. 10, 2020

Introduction

It is my big battle for money management. I have to avoid big loss. I started to learn how to invest on stock market, but I did not learn the rules, and how to follow the rules. No. 1, avoid big loss. 

My bad habit - money management - over 30 years

Once I form the bad habit, it is hard for me to correct the behavior. I have to learn this lesson, Sept. 10, 2020, I made mistake not to set stop loss on over $60,000 dollars TFSA account. 

Actionable Items

Look at this positions on Sept. 10, 2020. This is not an investment daily report. It is gambling. I do not learn how to prevent market risk, set trail stop limit on my positions. Diversification and all other things are missing in my portfolio. 

I only can make $2000 dollars after tax, and one day I lost near $3000 dollars on one account. 




Tuesday, May 26, 2020

OVV.TO stock: yahoo finance -> My conversation

May 26, 2020

Introduction

It is so interesting for me to be a stock holder. I start to read a lot of conversation from Yahoo finance. I need to learn more terms about Canada stock market. I wish that I purchase 10,000 shares on March 27, 2020, instead of 100 shares. 

Take notes 

I like to highlight things I should look into. 

  1. 70 million shares will need to be mandatorily purchased by index funds 
  2. OVV.TO was removed from TSX60 in January -> figure out capital size for TSX60
  3. 2.3 billion for S&P 400 mid cap 
  4. S & P 600 


Potential 70 million shares will need to be mandatorily purchased by index funds starting some time next month. Automatic back to 20 next month onwards just like it dropped when removed from TSX60 in Jan....enjoy the ride
jasime
  • Dan
    2 days ago
    Yep what @fossilfuel said regarding conditions. It’s a time factor that people forget, most, of not all, rebalance Quarterly, so the absolute soonest I think would be Q2
  • FossilFuel
    3 days ago
    @Jag they are already eligible for all of the Russel and S&P indices...now just the detail o which one based on market cap. Now the market cap requirements are not carved in stone and subject to change. OVV is close to $2.3B requirement for S&P400 mid cap which is going to be amazing...worst case S&P600 but then S&P would have to upgrade them if they got in 600 and they prefer to have stable indices all thought difficult. Same way Russell..done deal per citi, and many more.
    You can read the details on each index requirement on S&P and Russell websites.
  • Jay
    3 days ago
    Again, there are numerous conditions for listing onto these US indexes. OVV is not near to meeting them yet, which means more time required to hit target market cap. I would think at least 3 months if market conditions hold steady.
  • B
    3 days ago
    @FossilFuel Best post on the entire board, I am long time investor in this company. Thanks for your informative post.
  • Camilo
    3 days ago
    @FossilFuel The crash when they redomociled made sense as Canadian funds would have had to sell off, is my understanding due to foreign investment rules? Wasn't clear on the process from the other end i.e. when would Ovintiv be available for purchase by the US funds. Almost got spooked by this board into selling when the price crashed but held on and bought some more. Break even is down to $19 CDN, might actually see it happen...
  • FossilFuel
    3 days ago
    @Dan Agree..actually my post states a wti hh assumption with my price forecast. I never give ovv price forecast without commodity assumption. Also more md-term view my preference i.e. 21/22. Both short term and long term I am not smart enough to forecast. But I do think we should see upward pressure in June due to indices and all else remaining equal.
  • Dan
    3 days ago
    @Jim there was some serious overblown concern that ovv would default. Just terrible IB’s who didn’t do their homework. Glad to see other people around here have read all the quarterlies and powerpoints @fossilfuel I think we’ll be closer to $13-$16 than $20+ Until oil hits $50 or gas over $2.50 but your numbers are very plausible
  • Jim
    4 days ago
    @FossilFuel Thanks for explanations.
    It is hard to believe what they did.They hurt also OVV too much and in worst time.In some days that Shorts were shorting millions of shares they started to sell their stakes.They started to do that around 10 $ but they sold most of their shares around 3-4$.Their last transaction was for 2.7USD.I also think was not smart decision.On the time I asked from one of the Causeway's investor relations for their action.They replied me for "changing in Ovintiv's fundamentals".
  • FossilFuel
    4 days ago
    @Jim yeah a tragedy...not just causeway also Wellington dumped OVV, total about 50 million shares and inst holdings at historic lows...they may be kicking themselves by not being patient enough. causeway got in in 2016 I think at over 45. SO they broke the bank and must have lost everything...they tried to average down but did not work. I think they just gave up + corona and just took the hit and declare as losses next year. I dont think they were too smart...who sells when you have lost everything...sell before or if you are that low then might as well hold on unless ofsettingcapital gains. Also Wellington would have been even higher cause they were NFX...like I am sure well above 50. Good thing is Dodge&Cox Cox got more, Fidelity is in andTrowe is in....I think it will sort itself out next month.
  • Jim
    4 days ago
    @ FossilFuel
    I am wondering why some institutions sold their shares.do you think they don't know that OVV possibly will jump to over 20$ or even more.